04-12-2022, 07:02 AM
I "investigated" Crypterium's address in Tallinn
<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/Y_hNNu76R82QWyxwW1gDpGRI4q84rv-uGpwlqjYZVOk.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1008d18ac6640caf22820d57adb7b1c7a0b24281" alt="I "investigated" Crypterium's address in Tallinn" title="I "investigated" Crypterium's address in Tallinn" /> </a> </td><td> <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Yesterday, <a href="/u/prototype__">u/prototype__</a> posted about <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u0d5vp/beware_choise_cho_is_the_continuation_of_the_58m/">Choise (CHO) as a continuation of the $58m Crypterium scam</a>. I hadn't heard about this so I took a quick break from sobbing at my investments to look.</p> <p>In the original post, prototype__ mentions that the company claims to be in Estonia but the only address on their website is a hot-desk office in the UK. </p> <p>I <em>am</em> in Estonia (and yes, I'm aware that this account is not anon) and I thought that sounded odd, so I do a quick search and find that Crypterium is listed as an Estonian company and has an address in Tallinn. An address that I recognize, because it is the address of my fave Chinese restaurant. </p> <p>So what the hell, I figure I'll pop by.</p> <p>The address given is A. Lauteri 5, which is in the heart of Tallinn. Ants Lauter was an Estonian actor who died in Tallinn.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/04ty2fqcsws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1500fd38f126eaa4841848b1a12b5532ad658d1">A. Lauteri Tn</a></p> <p>Google Maps actually claims that Crypterium is at A. Lauteri 8, which is across the street. There are two reviews for Crypterium, both of which say <em>scam!</em>, so I'm suspecting this is a deliberately wrong address to put off any mad crypto types with firearms experience.</p> <p><a href="https://www.inforegister.ee/en/14352837-CRYPTERIUM-RD-OU">The registry</a> confirms that the company is registered at Lauteri 5 and says they have a total of 3 employees who earn an average salary of 780€/month, which seems pretty mean. You couldn't live in Tallinn off that. There's more information there but I didn't want to deprive you all of a chance of Internet research. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/o9bgp2rwtws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1ea81296eadbc2eb97c07852fdf7a4549398338">A. Lauteri 5</a></p> <p>This is Hans. If you end up this way and want a good meal, try the dumplings. </p> <p>But the next door down is also marked as #5. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/rirreowbvws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1f1f0db6ab84feb58d446d44a9c7bf8a6c29e0b">Lauteri 5</a></p> <p>This is clearly a collection of offices and hosts everything from English-speaking solicitors to the Brazilian embassy. There's no sign of Crypterium on the entrance. That seems a bit boring for a Reddit report. So I look around wondering if there's security cameras tracking me and then I walk in.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/893iushjxws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=997aec3c1e45f274843da237ca437db5b3e75a27">https://preview.redd.it/893iushjxws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=997aec3c1e45f274843da237ca437db5b3e75a27</a></p> <p>There's a row of post boxes in the entry way. A letter up top catches my eye because it says it is from the Brussels police and is to one of the names on a post box, so why not just drop it in the right box? But there's nothing anywhere about Crypterium.</p> <p>This is disappointing. I mean, I'm not planning on confronting anyone or anything ("Hi, I am from <a href="/r/Cryptocurrency">r/Cryptocurrency</a> and I wanted to talk to you about CHO"
but I thought I'd at least to get a photograph of a sign or something, I don't know. Or a post office box but no sign, as a sort of smoking gun. <em>Something</em>. </p> <p>I keep going.</p> <p>There's a sign in the lobby to show what floor every business is on and HEY LOOK! There's Crypterium.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/iq0qw9zxwws81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6f39f2c68b9c5ccaed0acab3bb92dceb6cb2a67">5th Floor</a></p> <p>So, I go dashing up and sure enough, there's a sign next to a weird white hallway that seems to have been rapidly built out of plywood. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/1ndhpnp6xws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9ba5f307720535a5e072bed217d75dfcae2939d">Crypterium is always written in italics. It's a thing.</a></p> <p>I go through the double doors and directly on the left is a white wooden door marked Crypterium. I look at it. It's a door.</p> <p>So, um. That's it. I guess I'm done. </p> <p>But there's one thing that's niggling me. The entry way sign says Crypterium and Skybutch but there's no Skybutch up here. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/x6r9dql0yws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4b940ffaf548c0b22fec48010741a7b81fdbb15">Are they the same company?</a></p> <p>And that letter, that letter in the entryway from the police. It says Skybutch, right? The one that for some reason isn't in the letter box.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/3kkw5gzv3xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a295776515b8409e793773db4e042afd648d347b">https://preview.redd.it/3kkw5gzv3xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a295776515b8409e793773db4e042afd648d347b</a></p> <p>I go back to the entrance and loiter for a moment. Once it is quiet, I look all around me, pick up the police letter and head back to the 5th floor and knock on Crypterium's door.</p> <p>I hear footsteps pounding. This area is definitely all put together with plywood and duct tape. I don't dare take a photo. ("Surprise! You're on candid camera!"</p> <p>A 30-something guy with a thick brown beard opens the door and blinks at me blearily. "Hi," I say. "I found this on the floor and I think it might be yours."</p> <p>"Wha-?" To his credit, he switches straight to English. "What is it?" He peers at the envelope without taking it from me and says "I don't know who that is."</p> <p>"Oh, I thought it was yours, because the sign said Crypterium and Skybutch." I'm smiling like a maniac and trying to get a peek into the office. "It's just it was lying on the floor by the entryway."</p> <p>I swear to god, he steps out and looks at his own door, which says Crypterium and nothing else. "Where does it say that?"</p> <p>"No, not there," I say. "Downstairs. At the entrance. It says Crypterium and Skybutch. Big sign on the elevator. I thought you were one company." The office is all white and very long and narrow office. There's a desk near the door with a computer screen showing something in blue. All along the near wall is a long bench desk with stools. I lean further but I can't see anyone else, maybe a laptop at the far end of the bench desk. </p> <p>"No, that's not us. I've never heard of them." He gives me a funny look and steps back, blocking my view.</p> <p>Luckily, everyone here thinks Americans are borderline psychotic anyway, so I just keep smiling. "OK, I'll just take this and see if I can find them. I'm sure they are here somewhere." I look further down the hallway hopefully. </p> <p>He snatches the envelope from my hand. "That's fine, I'll take it."</p> <p>"Thanks!" </p> <p>He closes the door on my face and I hightail it out of there. And that's that! They definitely are at that address and apparently they are not Skybutch. OK, not a lot and I reckon corporate spy is not going to be a valid career choice for me. </p> <p>I meant it about the dumplings at Hans, though.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/e8m0ue6g2xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f065c7d663232de8de2a284bd07f19f877967fd1">https://preview.redd.it/e8m0ue6g2xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f065c7d663232de8de2a284bd07f19f877967fd1</a></p> </div><!-- SC_ON --> submitted by <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/akaSylvia"> /u/akaSylvia </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/">[link]</a></span> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>Kind Regards R
<table> <tr><td> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/"> <img src="https://external-preview.redd.it/Y_hNNu76R82QWyxwW1gDpGRI4q84rv-uGpwlqjYZVOk.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=1008d18ac6640caf22820d57adb7b1c7a0b24281" alt="I "investigated" Crypterium's address in Tallinn" title="I "investigated" Crypterium's address in Tallinn" /> </a> </td><td> <!-- SC_OFF --><div class="md"><p>Yesterday, <a href="/u/prototype__">u/prototype__</a> posted about <a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u0d5vp/beware_choise_cho_is_the_continuation_of_the_58m/">Choise (CHO) as a continuation of the $58m Crypterium scam</a>. I hadn't heard about this so I took a quick break from sobbing at my investments to look.</p> <p>In the original post, prototype__ mentions that the company claims to be in Estonia but the only address on their website is a hot-desk office in the UK. </p> <p>I <em>am</em> in Estonia (and yes, I'm aware that this account is not anon) and I thought that sounded odd, so I do a quick search and find that Crypterium is listed as an Estonian company and has an address in Tallinn. An address that I recognize, because it is the address of my fave Chinese restaurant. </p> <p>So what the hell, I figure I'll pop by.</p> <p>The address given is A. Lauteri 5, which is in the heart of Tallinn. Ants Lauter was an Estonian actor who died in Tallinn.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/04ty2fqcsws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1500fd38f126eaa4841848b1a12b5532ad658d1">A. Lauteri Tn</a></p> <p>Google Maps actually claims that Crypterium is at A. Lauteri 8, which is across the street. There are two reviews for Crypterium, both of which say <em>scam!</em>, so I'm suspecting this is a deliberately wrong address to put off any mad crypto types with firearms experience.</p> <p><a href="https://www.inforegister.ee/en/14352837-CRYPTERIUM-RD-OU">The registry</a> confirms that the company is registered at Lauteri 5 and says they have a total of 3 employees who earn an average salary of 780€/month, which seems pretty mean. You couldn't live in Tallinn off that. There's more information there but I didn't want to deprive you all of a chance of Internet research. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/o9bgp2rwtws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1ea81296eadbc2eb97c07852fdf7a4549398338">A. Lauteri 5</a></p> <p>This is Hans. If you end up this way and want a good meal, try the dumplings. </p> <p>But the next door down is also marked as #5. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/rirreowbvws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1f1f0db6ab84feb58d446d44a9c7bf8a6c29e0b">Lauteri 5</a></p> <p>This is clearly a collection of offices and hosts everything from English-speaking solicitors to the Brazilian embassy. There's no sign of Crypterium on the entrance. That seems a bit boring for a Reddit report. So I look around wondering if there's security cameras tracking me and then I walk in.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/893iushjxws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=997aec3c1e45f274843da237ca437db5b3e75a27">https://preview.redd.it/893iushjxws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=997aec3c1e45f274843da237ca437db5b3e75a27</a></p> <p>There's a row of post boxes in the entry way. A letter up top catches my eye because it says it is from the Brussels police and is to one of the names on a post box, so why not just drop it in the right box? But there's nothing anywhere about Crypterium.</p> <p>This is disappointing. I mean, I'm not planning on confronting anyone or anything ("Hi, I am from <a href="/r/Cryptocurrency">r/Cryptocurrency</a> and I wanted to talk to you about CHO"
but I thought I'd at least to get a photograph of a sign or something, I don't know. Or a post office box but no sign, as a sort of smoking gun. <em>Something</em>. </p> <p>I keep going.</p> <p>There's a sign in the lobby to show what floor every business is on and HEY LOOK! There's Crypterium.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/iq0qw9zxwws81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f6f39f2c68b9c5ccaed0acab3bb92dceb6cb2a67">5th Floor</a></p> <p>So, I go dashing up and sure enough, there's a sign next to a weird white hallway that seems to have been rapidly built out of plywood. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/1ndhpnp6xws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d9ba5f307720535a5e072bed217d75dfcae2939d">Crypterium is always written in italics. It's a thing.</a></p> <p>I go through the double doors and directly on the left is a white wooden door marked Crypterium. I look at it. It's a door.</p> <p>So, um. That's it. I guess I'm done. </p> <p>But there's one thing that's niggling me. The entry way sign says Crypterium and Skybutch but there's no Skybutch up here. </p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/x6r9dql0yws81.jpg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4b940ffaf548c0b22fec48010741a7b81fdbb15">Are they the same company?</a></p> <p>And that letter, that letter in the entryway from the police. It says Skybutch, right? The one that for some reason isn't in the letter box.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/3kkw5gzv3xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a295776515b8409e793773db4e042afd648d347b">https://preview.redd.it/3kkw5gzv3xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a295776515b8409e793773db4e042afd648d347b</a></p> <p>I go back to the entrance and loiter for a moment. Once it is quiet, I look all around me, pick up the police letter and head back to the 5th floor and knock on Crypterium's door.</p> <p>I hear footsteps pounding. This area is definitely all put together with plywood and duct tape. I don't dare take a photo. ("Surprise! You're on candid camera!"</p> <p>A 30-something guy with a thick brown beard opens the door and blinks at me blearily. "Hi," I say. "I found this on the floor and I think it might be yours."</p> <p>"Wha-?" To his credit, he switches straight to English. "What is it?" He peers at the envelope without taking it from me and says "I don't know who that is."</p> <p>"Oh, I thought it was yours, because the sign said Crypterium and Skybutch." I'm smiling like a maniac and trying to get a peek into the office. "It's just it was lying on the floor by the entryway."</p> <p>I swear to god, he steps out and looks at his own door, which says Crypterium and nothing else. "Where does it say that?"</p> <p>"No, not there," I say. "Downstairs. At the entrance. It says Crypterium and Skybutch. Big sign on the elevator. I thought you were one company." The office is all white and very long and narrow office. There's a desk near the door with a computer screen showing something in blue. All along the near wall is a long bench desk with stools. I lean further but I can't see anyone else, maybe a laptop at the far end of the bench desk. </p> <p>"No, that's not us. I've never heard of them." He gives me a funny look and steps back, blocking my view.</p> <p>Luckily, everyone here thinks Americans are borderline psychotic anyway, so I just keep smiling. "OK, I'll just take this and see if I can find them. I'm sure they are here somewhere." I look further down the hallway hopefully. </p> <p>He snatches the envelope from my hand. "That's fine, I'll take it."</p> <p>"Thanks!" </p> <p>He closes the door on my face and I hightail it out of there. And that's that! They definitely are at that address and apparently they are not Skybutch. OK, not a lot and I reckon corporate spy is not going to be a valid career choice for me. </p> <p>I meant it about the dumplings at Hans, though.</p> <p><a href="https://preview.redd.it/e8m0ue6g2xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f065c7d663232de8de2a284bd07f19f877967fd1">https://preview.redd.it/e8m0ue6g2xs81.jpg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f065c7d663232de8de2a284bd07f19f877967fd1</a></p> </div><!-- SC_ON --> submitted by <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/akaSylvia"> /u/akaSylvia </a> <br/> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/">[link]</a></span> <span><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/u1acqe/i_investigated_crypteriums_address_in_tallinn/">[comments]</a></span> </td></tr></table>Kind Regards R